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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:49 pm 
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Renemies wrote:
I also forgot to add, where's "Oh Darling"??? :P Thanks again for everything...


Oh Darling isn't in the current game.
It will be part of the Abbey Road DLC in the coming months.


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:03 pm 
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The I Want You (She's So Heavy) mix has totally made my day!


Yes! agree totally, great to hear Billy Preston exposed!
Thanks Mike.


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:39 pm 
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God damn, I'm listening to that 9-part RapidShare pack. These mixes are BEAUTIFUL.

People claiming for remixes instead of remasters should definately hear this!


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:41 pm 
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thread of the year!


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:48 pm 
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Congratulations!! M3J

Rock Band will rock you!!!

Have a nice weekend boys!!

Paulo Castillo


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:58 pm 
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maxheadroom wrote:
God damn, I'm listening to that 9-part RapidShare pack. These mixes are BEAUTIFUL.

People claiming for remixes instead of remasters should definately hear this!


yep, these are the remixes folks are looking for, I doubt we will see anything different until we get our hands on those RB isos. Unfortunately as Magoocus pointed out they aren't as "wide" as we're used to, but it's the modern remix sound.


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:31 pm 
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What is the DLC?

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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:23 pm 
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Great to be here - actually swore to myself not to enter yet another Beatles forum but just had to simply to say thanks for all the good stuff!

The last couple days I downloaded a whole lot mixes and slowly sort through them - some are absolutly stunning!
However there are two types (and I don`t even know if I got them all here) that seem to have slight problems:
Those SB mixes - are these for surround? I don`t have such a system so no wonder I don`t "get" them.
Then there are those that feature bursts of instruments that should actually not be there - are these remnants of the "push the button to keep the song playing"-technique that were not eliminated by editing together several run-throughs or are these bursts within the songs for the purpose of giving the player a bit of a guide?
Don`t get me wrong - absolutly wonderful stuff! Just some is even more wonderful than others!

(I know I should have taken notes who did which mixes and what technique was used etc. but I was just greedy and downloaded all I could get, not only here but also from BZ)


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:34 pm 
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Ken Wood wrote:
Those SB mixes - are these for surround? I don`t have such a system so no wonder I don`t "get" them.
Then there are those that feature bursts of instruments that should actually not be there - are these remnants of the "push the button to keep the song playing"-technique that were not eliminated by editing together several run-throughs or are these bursts within the songs for the purpose of giving the player a bit of a guide?
Don`t get me wrong - absolutly wonderful stuff! Just some is even more wonderful than others!


Hey Ken, how ya doing? It's been ages.. :D

The SB stuff is mixed for surround. If you have a 5.1 system, it can be played in Windows Media Player. If not then it isn't much good.

The other mixes with the bursts of sound is pushing the instrument's button to keep the "error" sounds from occurring. Mike has gone to the trouble of playing through the songs twice, hitting the button at different times and mixing the two tracks together. I tried this and it's a royal pain.
In some of the mixes though it's a real chore to eliminate.

What I am impressed by is the drumless/guitarless tracks, this means playing two controllers at the same time.


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:41 pm 
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terminusj wrote:
What is the DLC?


down loadable content, such as all of Abbey Road being made available in October, Pepper in November, Rubber Soul in December, etc..


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:43 pm 
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MP3J wrote:
thread of the year!


yep!


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:47 am 
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hi mp3j,

I totally forgot I actually already had "Oh Darling!", so I put it up as an mp3. It sounds awesome...

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I also forgot to add, where's "Oh Darling"??? :P Thanks again for everything...


Oh Darling isn't in the current game.
It will be part of the Abbey Road DLC in the coming months.


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:39 am 
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Veech wrote:
Ken Wood wrote:
Those SB mixes - are these for surround? I don`t have such a system so no wonder I don`t "get" them.
Then there are those that feature bursts of instruments that should actually not be there - are these remnants of the "push the button to keep the song playing"-technique that were not eliminated by editing together several run-throughs or are these bursts within the songs for the purpose of giving the player a bit of a guide?
Don`t get me wrong - absolutly wonderful stuff! Just some is even more wonderful than others!


Hey Ken, how ya doing? It's been ages.. :D

The SB stuff is mixed for surround. If you have a 5.1 system, it can be played in Windows Media Player. If not then it isn't much good.

The other mixes with the bursts of sound is pushing the instrument's button to keep the "error" sounds from occurring. Mike has gone to the trouble of playing through the songs twice, hitting the button at different times and mixing the two tracks together. I tried this and it's a royal pain.
In some of the mixes though it's a real chore to eliminate.

What I am impressed by is the drumless/guitarless tracks, this means playing two controllers at the same time.


correct, sometimes i do three passes.
but with most of the songs it'll play the begin notes of the instruments you are trying to eliminate anyways... and no way to stop it from doing that.. after that it's just being careful and stick to the 5 second timing.


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
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Veech wrote:
Hey Ken, how ya doing? It's been ages.. :D

The SB stuff is mixed for surround. If you have a 5.1 system, it can be played in Windows Media Player. If not then it isn't much good.

The other mixes with the bursts of sound is pushing the instrument's button to keep the "error" sounds from occurring. Mike has gone to the trouble of playing through the songs twice, hitting the button at different times and mixing the two tracks together. I tried this and it's a royal pain.
In some of the mixes though it's a real chore to eliminate.

What I am impressed by is the drumless/guitarless tracks, this means playing two controllers at the same time.


Thanks Veech! Yeah, I figured I have no use for the surround stuff (yet). BTW I`ve been around all the time - but mostly sticking to BZ. Still on John`s Yahoo group though in lurking mode.
So these with the instrumental bursts are indeed those where the "extractor" didn`t do the full routine as described by Mike, I see.
I also try to find out who did which remixes - I see several different methods of naming:
- Number Songname (type of mix)
- Number Songname type of mix
- Rock Band Songname SB = the surround ones
- Rock Band Songname STEREO type of mix
- The Beatles - Songname (type of mix)
- The Beatles - Songname type of mix
- songname
Could the suspects please identify theirs?
(not included are Robbies "straight" mixes - he still resides in a different folder)


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:52 pm 
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I put everyone's in their own folder at the beginning (glad I did).

- Number Songname (type of mix)

These are Paulo's latest batch but they sound like extractions from his other rockband tracks because there's artifacting on them. Trying to get any extractions/isolations/oopses seems to produce heavy artifacting, with oopsing being the least bad.

- Number Songname type of mix

Paulo's again.

- Rock Band Songname SB = the surround ones

Paulo. This is one-speaker output according to what he said. He said they were center speaker but to me they sound like left or right channel after comparing to some of Mike's tracks. They're not in surround, they're mono.

- Rock Band Songname STEREO type of mix

Paulo's first test batch with only one element removed, these are all overloaded ie brickwalled as Veech pointed out, I don't think Paulo had his output set up correctly yet.

- The Beatles - Songname (type of mix)

These are MikeNL's oopses(?) of some of his tracks, in mp3.

- The Beatles - Songname type of mix

MikeNL's tracks. All "Drum-guitarless" except for a "Drum-bassless" of I am the Walrus, and a "Drumless" and "Guitarless" of Hello Goodbye.

- songname

I don't think I have any labeled this way. Which songs? Did I miss some?


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:29 am 
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magoocus wrote:
I put everyone's in their own folder at the beginning (glad I did).

- Number Songname (type of mix)

These are Paulo's latest batch but they sound like extractions from his other rockband tracks because there's artifacting on them. Trying to get any extractions/isolations/oopses seems to produce heavy artifacting, with oopsing being the least bad.

- Number Songname type of mix

Paulo's again.

- Rock Band Songname SB = the surround ones

Paulo. This is one-speaker output according to what he said. He said they were center speaker but to me they sound like left or right channel after comparing to some of Mike's tracks. They're not in surround, they're mono.

- Rock Band Songname STEREO type of mix

Paulo's first test batch with only one element removed, these are all overloaded ie brickwalled as Veech pointed out, I don't think Paulo had his output set up correctly yet.

- The Beatles - Songname (type of mix)

These are MikeNL's oopses(?) of some of his tracks, in mp3.

- The Beatles - Songname type of mix

MikeNL's tracks. All "Drum-guitarless" except for a "Drum-bassless" of I am the Walrus, and a "Drumless" and "Guitarless" of Hello Goodbye.

- songname

I don't think I have any labeled this way. Which songs? Did I miss some?

I've been using the same approach, and in addition to the above folders I've got another folder called "Rock Band Miscellaneous" which has 3 files (which I may have possibly slightly renamed for clarity):

Two from BJD:
- Here Comes The Sun take 1
- Hello Goodbye instrumental

And one from yourself, magoocus:
- Hello Goodbye rockband 5.1 remix

I think that covers it so far? (plus the 85 .ogg files and the 8 Revolution files with take warm ups etc)


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:49 am 
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Can someone repost Mike NL's "I Am The Walrus Drum-Bassless version TBRB PS3 (wav)?" It is not available on
Mediafire anymore...

Also, I see someone has the 85 .oggs...these still haven't been cracked yet...right?


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
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JWOL wrote:
Also, I see someone has the 85 .oggs...these still haven't been cracked yet...right?

I converted them to wav with dbpoweramp converter.


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
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Wow!

I have been struggling with the Arktool 7 route with an iso from XBOX360 but to no luck. Can you post the .wavs from the .oggs?


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
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JWOL wrote:
Can someone repost Mike NL's "I Am The Walrus Drum-Bassless version TBRB PS3 (wav)?" It is not available on
Mediafire anymore...

Also, I see someone has the 85 .oggs...these still haven't been cracked yet...right?


i deleted that one myself.
i didn't think it was good enough.


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:19 am 
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Understood, MikeNL. Great work all on this forum..MikeNL, Paulo and the others. This stuff is awsome!


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
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Just wondering what people here are using the tracks for? Remixing? Personal interest? As for me I'm interested in guitarless tracks to play along with. Getting an electronic drum set at some point so I'm interested in drumless tracks as well.


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
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Thanks for posting these, MikeNL and everyone else!

Any chance someone could re-up the Helter Skelter Vocals only mix? It doesn't appear to be on mediafire anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
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JWOL wrote:
Wow!

I have been struggling with the Arktool 7 route with an iso from XBOX360 but to no luck. Can you post the .wavs from the .oggs?

These are the various song intros that Mp3j posted, the ones labeled "vo_loading." I can upload as flacs if needed.


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 Post subject: Re: MikeNL's Rockband Mixes
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Great work, everyone that's been creating these mixes, especially MikeNL!

Beggars can't be choosers, but I'm curious....
With the method that's being used, will it ever be possible to create a "drum only" mix or a "guitar-only" mix, or something at least with those instruments louder? These vocal-heavy mixes are awesome, but I'd love to hear more of the guitar work and drum detail.
I guess I'm wondering if the method that's being used to eliminate the drums and guitar can be done to eliminate the guitar, bass and vocal or drums, bass and vocal? Preferably without resorting to phase cancellation methods?


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